Landover results updated; Fee given credit for WR in 800
As promised by national masters chairman Gary Snyder, Landover indoor nationals results have been reposted. (The original results were a botch.)  But I wouldn’t call it a complete correction, since it includes a 69.0 for W55 Karla Del Grande in the 400 (instead of a 67 she deserves) and a 2:52 hand-time for fellow Canadian Earl Fee in the 800, when it could reasonably be 2:50.0. Still, Fee should qualify for an M80 world record. For results dated April 13, click here.  Alas, the 60-meter hurdles results still show an M40 American record for Johnny Watson and an absurdly slow 12.12 for M45 Karl Smith.  Karl won the race, but the results still show him as fourth! On the bright side, Andrew Duncan has been restored to winner of the M40 mile in 4:36.0 (instead of being labeled DNS).  I haven’t reviewed the relays results yet. They were all boogered up, too.
I sure hope these are still a work in process as I see the M40-49 4×400 results are still screwed up.
Greater Philly won in a time of about 3:46. I know we sent a correction in. Also, I doubt very much 2nd was over 4:00.
Julie Hayden - April 13, 2009
I agree with Chuck. Athena’s first place in the W40-49 4x800M in 10:05 is still missing despite the correction also being submitted. The W60-69 4×800 Meter Relay result is certainly interesting!
I sincerely hope all the record breakers are recognized for their achievements, especially the “Great” Earl Fee.
Don Drummond - April 14, 2009
Maybe it is time to come clean and say we just do not have the official results. If they cannot provide a photo of your race then I hate to say it. The results are not official!!!!!
Time the race from the video of the m30-45 60 Meter Hurdle Race and hand time it was about a 7.72 for the winner.
That was a wasted trip!!! I guess I will have to write this one off.
Looking Forward to Mt. Sac and Outdoor Nationals!
I am sure we will have no problem with the timing system at these meets.
Don Drummond
Ken, the hurdle times you list are not “suspect.” In almost every case they are wrong, sometimes by more than 3 seconds. As you know from your history as a standout hurdler in the Omaha (Nebraska) school system, 3 seconds is an eternity in hurdling.
The time of my friend Karla Del Grande is wrong.
Karla Del Grande - April 14, 2009
Here’s the email that I received in response to my query as to how my time was decided, since the photo showed the rest of the finishers, but not me:
“Karla
    The operator did not know how to enter you in the system with no time so she just made up one. It is unfortunate that this happened but the games committee in the future will take control of both Hytek and FAT timing so hopefully this does not happen again.
Jim Flanik”
Doesn’t that mean that “No Time” should be entered in the results?
Howard Lindsay - April 15, 2009
Will someone please look at the tape/video of meet including the hurdle races and fix these terrible mixups especially in the m45 60m hurdle race…..I have a copy of the video and you can see clearly who finished in what place. The times are also terribly wrong and as a result rankings are affected. Officials should also know who was in what lane. Some of the athletes who competed in these championships are current world champions in their events and it is a shame that they cannot even be recognized by officials……shame, shame……Please no more excuses…..just fix it.
David E. Ortman (M56) Seattle, WA - April 15, 2009
Nearly a month after Landover and the following results are still posted on their website. There were no photo or timing problems, so how can someone get 9th place in the M55 HJ when there were only 7 jumpers? Perspiring minds want to know. http://www.usatf.org/events/2009/USAMastersIndoorTFChampionships/Results/results.asp
M55 High Jump
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Name Age Team Finals
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1 609 William Murray M55 Birmingham T,Birmin 1.65m 5-05.00
2 960 Robert Zahn M55 Unattached,Grafton, 1.60m 5-03.00
5 42 Edward Baskauskas M58 Unattached,Martinez 1.50m 4-11.00
5 550 W. Keith Mathis M56 Potomac Vall,Reiste 1.50m 4-11.00
8 639 David Ortman M55 Unattached,Seattle, J1.55m 5-01.00
9 292 Al Gabbard M59 Unattached,Springfi J1.55m 5-01.00
— 129 Al Cestero M55 Shore Athlet,Freeho NH
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I sure hope these are still a work in process as I see the M40-49 4×400 results are still screwed up.
Greater Philly won in a time of about 3:46. I know we sent a correction in. Also, I doubt very much 2nd was over 4:00.
I agree with Chuck. Athena’s first place in the W40-49 4x800M in 10:05 is still missing despite the correction also being submitted. The W60-69 4×800 Meter Relay result is certainly interesting!
I sincerely hope all the record breakers are recognized for their achievements, especially the “Great” Earl Fee.
Maybe it is time to come clean and say we just do not have the official results. If they cannot provide a photo of your race then I hate to say it. The results are not official!!!!!
Time the race from the video of the m30-45 60 Meter Hurdle Race and hand time it was about a 7.72 for the winner.
That was a wasted trip!!! I guess I will have to write this one off.
Looking Forward to Mt. Sac and Outdoor Nationals!
I am sure we will have no problem with the timing system at these meets.
Don Drummond
Ken, the hurdle times you list are not “suspect.” In almost every case they are wrong, sometimes by more than 3 seconds. As you know from your history as a standout hurdler in the Omaha (Nebraska) school system, 3 seconds is an eternity in hurdling.
The time of my friend Karla Del Grande is wrong.
Here’s the email that I received in response to my query as to how my time was decided, since the photo showed the rest of the finishers, but not me:
“Karla
    The operator did not know how to enter you in the system with no time so she just made up one. It is unfortunate that this happened but the games committee in the future will take control of both Hytek and FAT timing so hopefully this does not happen again.
Jim Flanik”
Doesn’t that mean that “No Time” should be entered in the results?
Will someone please look at the tape/video of meet including the hurdle races and fix these terrible mixups especially in the m45 60m hurdle race…..I have a copy of the video and you can see clearly who finished in what place. The times are also terribly wrong and as a result rankings are affected. Officials should also know who was in what lane. Some of the athletes who competed in these championships are current world champions in their events and it is a shame that they cannot even be recognized by officials……shame, shame……Please no more excuses…..just fix it.
Nearly a month after Landover and the following results are still posted on their website. There were no photo or timing problems, so how can someone get 9th place in the M55 HJ when there were only 7 jumpers? Perspiring minds want to know.
http://www.usatf.org/events/2009/USAMastersIndoorTFChampionships/Results/results.asp
M55 High Jump
==========================================================================
Name Age Team Finals
==========================================================================
1 609 William Murray M55 Birmingham T,Birmin 1.65m 5-05.00
2 960 Robert Zahn M55 Unattached,Grafton, 1.60m 5-03.00
5 42 Edward Baskauskas M58 Unattached,Martinez 1.50m 4-11.00
5 550 W. Keith Mathis M56 Potomac Vall,Reiste 1.50m 4-11.00
8 639 David Ortman M55 Unattached,Seattle, J1.55m 5-01.00
9 292 Al Gabbard M59 Unattached,Springfi J1.55m 5-01.00
— 129 Al Cestero M55 Shore Athlet,Freeho NH
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